“Convinced that the republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind, my prayers & efforts shall be cordially distributed to the support of that we have so happily established. It is indeed an animating thought that, while we are securing the rights of ourselves & our posterity, we are pointing out the way to struggling nations who wish, like us, to emerge from their tyrannies also. Heaven help their struggles, and lead them, as it has done us, triumphantly thro’ them.” – Thomas Jefferson
“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” – Thomas Jefferson
It’s like Howard Roark vs. Ellseworth Toohey in “The Fountainhead”. If you have not yet read it, I suggest you do so to better understand the analogy. [Buy "The Fountainhead" on Amazon]
And in regards to socialist bill proposals, “Atlas Shrugged” depicts how government control over private industry results in profiting no-one except for the egos of the politicians on a superficial and temporary level. What is the greater purpose? Is there a greater purpose?
Follow the money trail to find out for yourself. Follow and trace back the spheres of influence to which our so-called “elected” officials belong to. What are the goals of those spheres as stated by themselves? It’s a deep rabbit hole. Bring a flash-light. If you love liberty, and your God-given Sovereignty, you will want to investigate further. If you are content being governed without consent and being told it is for the so-called “common good”(whatever that is), then disregard this entire post. (too late?)
Rush Limbaugh was on the Glenn Beck show talking about Obama’s new Diversity Czar at the FCC. Hear him in his own words:
Rush Limbaugh hopes that Passion , Love of Country and Truth will overcome this most dangerous time for Liberty and Freedom.
” The President of the United States , Barack Obama , is Destroying the United States Economy… the United States Economy is being Destroyed . ” – Rush Limbaugh
I have personally-strong views about this topic, being English. What the Mises thread (and article) forgets to deal with at all of course, as is natural, is the role of (1) Woodrow Wilson and (2) the extreme reluctance of the Kaiser to go to unrestricted U-Boat warfare despite the indignant response of his Navy and his General Staff, who knew the German Empire could win if the weapon was used mercilessly, as was right and proper for them in war. I believe that Tirpitz even resigned, but who now cares?
If the USA had not entered WW1 in 1917, or even at all, on anybody’s side, I do not think the eventual result would have been very different: it would merely have been more expensive for The Empire and would have taken longer – but I am prepared to be contradicted.
Free speech is getting more popular not less as a result. Well, they have a plan for that too. We can only hope that it fails as badly as this little Alinskyan escapade.
When Glenn Beck spoke the truth, the White House was uncomfortable. When Glenn Beck spoke race, Obama minions pulled out their card and sprang into action. A group called the Color of Change, a group associated with Van Jones, the current green czar, the self proclaimed “rowdy national and communist” is behind the boycott. This group is turning the screws on advertisers on Beck’s program, and many have dropped their advertising.
Well, success, right? Not so fast. Since the attack on free speech boycott, the ratings for Beck’s show have skyrocketed. Yes, skyrocketed. In addition, some of these advertisers have pulled their ads from the left leaning competition.
I said earlier that Van Jones is, or was associated with the Color of Change. The reason that description was so murky is that these groups tend to form, then fall apart or morph into a new group, or even congeal with several other groups so tracking the origins of the group and who founded or co-founded can be difficult. Van Jones had a hand in the formation of this group. He now has the ear of Barack Obama. Van Jones is a communist. His words. Van Jones is a radical. And Van Jones is certainly not the only radical in the Obama administration. More on that is coming.
This issue isn’t about race. Certainly Barack Obama can’t have a problem with it or he would have walked out on Jeremiah Wright 20 years ago. He at the very least doesn’t have a problem with the concept. This is a concerted effort to silence free speech. Beck is laying out the Obama agenda and all its radicals player daily. He’s painting an easy to understand big picture. That’s what this is all about. We bloggers talk about the details (which are extremely important), but Beck is piecing those details together in a portrait of the big agenda. We need the details, but we also need someone to put together the puzzle from hell. That’s where Beck comes in. Color of Change (or whoever is currently winding their clock) want to shut him-and us down. Their mistake is that they think we need Glenn Beck. We don’t. We want Glenn Beck. The first amendment will live on with or without him. But if they get to him, and if they are successful in silencing him, you can be sure they will eventually get to you.
Don’t stand for it. It’s very easy to get a list of advertisers that have pulled out of Beck’s program, and a list of those that have stayed-or just signed on. You have the power to buy. Who do you want to support with your dollars? Companies that don’t mind hearing the truth, or companies complicit in the stifling of free speech? Your call, your money.
The following summary from a colleague on LinkedIn concisely and emphatically resolves every major concern about having a health care system which includes a public option. Bravo and thank you David!!! ~Christine
By David Vernon, a Management Consulting Professional
1) Private insurers have almost a monopoly on employer plans, so there is now no competiton on price and service. Risk pools are regional, so inter-state private insurance will not change this. Federal jurisdiction does not extend to regulation of insurance policies written within States, but it does extend to plans receiving Federal funds. That is why we need a public option – so that Federally funded plans can offer features private insurers do not now offer, forcing all private insurers to compete on price and service (ignoring pre-existing conditions, eliminating “exclusions”, etc.)
2) 30% of current costs are accrued at municipal hospitals providing routine care for the uninsured in emergency rooms for ten times the cost of routine care in clinics and doctor’s offices. Providing Federal coverage for anyone, no questions asked, for routine care would allow these people to get care for one tenth what it costs now. A 90% reduction in 30% of costs saves 27% of current costs. That is the “indeterminate” savings from covering everybody, at Federal expense, at a cost of 1.4 trillion dollars over ten years. That is how expanding coverage could actually save money and lower overall costs.
3) 80% of lifetime expenses are accrued in the last six months of life for intensive care while dying. Absent clear instructions from the patient, medical ethics and current law require that no expense be spared to prolong life, at least unitl the $1 million lifetime insurance coverage is exhausted. Every patient who elects not to have intensive care while dying saves the system $500,000, $400,000 in insurance payments and $100,000 in copayments from the family of the patient. The cost of covering a living will conference is $100. Net savings is $499,900 per patient who makes a living will refusing intensive care while dying. Absent living wills, the 40 million Baby Boomers will incur $20 trillion in intensive care costs while dying over the next 25 years.
4) After end-of-life and routine care in ER, the next biggest cost item is 15% of current costs due to lack of proper medical information. These costs involve 98,000 excess deaths annually, duplicate diagnostic testing and imaging, and the care required to recover from mistakes in dosage and treatment. The existence of complete, accessible, lifetime electronic health records, such as now exist in the VA system, will eliminate this 15% of costs.
Bottom line = without a public option, it will not be reform. without mandatory living will coverage, it will not be reform. with electronic health records, the living will savings will not accrue because the doctor at the hospital will not know you have one, and it will not be reform. Costs can be nine times the CBO estimate and will still be half the $20 trillion that no reform will cost. Savings potential for living wills and guaranteed routine care for everyone are more than half of what we spend now.
5) Current costs of about $16 trillion annually amount to $8,000+ per capita. Results rank between 20th and 37th worldwide. The “best” results worldwide are achieved in France, which has a “public” option but not “national health.” Costs there are 30% lower than ours per capita, and private insurers continue to make profits, although not as huge as they do in the USA.
The only losers if the proposed reforms pass are the private insurers, who now reap most of the benefits of this system that lets 20,000 people a year die for lack of coverage and costs half again as much as the next most expensive national system in the world. ~~~
Carrying a gun [openly, at a protest] is clearly an attempt to make some sort of political statement, though we may not know what — rather like flag burning.
The one upsets 20th-century leftists, as the other upsets 20th-century rightists. Yes, I think that works rather well.
Well, the 20th Century ended close to a decade ago. Can we let this shit slide and focus on more important things, please?
More from McArdle:
I should add that Zengerle asks me what, besides a bet, I would take as proof that liberals are 100% serious in their beliefs about protesters. Well, I think revealed preference is the best cue, but I would take a non-bet bet. That is: what would falsify your belief that these people are the vanguard of a rising tide of dangerous right-wing militia action?
I don’t get the feeling that it is possible to falsify these beliefs–indeed, the rage that confronts me when I attempt the fairly anodyne task of showing that law-abiding gun owners almost never turn criminal, suggests a very considerable emotional investment in them.
This shouldn’t be difficult. Even the White House is happy to let people carry firearms — in compliance with local law, of course — near town hall meetings. I’d have thought that would settle it: when the President’s security staff say “Hey, this isn’t a big deal; shut up and let us focus on more pressing matters”, perhaps those of us who purport to have the President’s security in mind should at least consider what they have to say, hmm?
This reminds me of what Dr. Dutch writes at the top of each of his essays:
What evidence would it take to prove your beliefs wrong?
I simply will not reply to challenges that do not address this question. Refutability is one of the classic determinants of whether a theory can be called scientific. Moreover, I have found it to be a great general-purpose cut-through-the-crap question to determine whether somebody is interested in serious intellectual inquiry or just playing mind games. Note, by the way, that I am assuming the burden of proof here – all you have to do is commit to a criterion for testing. It’s easy to criticize science for being “closed-minded”. Are you open-minded enough to consider whether your ideas might be wrong?
Random allusions to John Wilkes Booth do not make you right.
“Compulsory military service thus leads to compulsory labor service of all citizens who are able to work, male and female. . . . Mobilization has become total; the nation and the state have been transformed into an army; war socialism has replaced the market economy.”
~Ludwig von Mises, Interventionism, page 88
“That democratic socialism, the great utopia of the last few generations, is not only unachievable, but that to strive for it produces something so utterly different that few of those who wish it would be prepared to accept the consequences, many will not believe until the connection has been laid bare in all its aspects.”
~Friedrich A. Hayek, The Road to Serfdom, page 23
Obama Civilian Security
Obama’s Brownshirts Ready to “Take Orders” and “Do his Bidding”… scary
Obama – Emanuel Mandatory Service “The Plan”
Barrack Obama on Gun Control
Rahm Emanuel – No GUNS allowed!
Glenn Beck: What the Media Refuses to Tell You About Rahm Emanuel
Obama Calls For Renewed Spirit Of National Service
AMERICORP’S CITY YEAR PARAMILITARY AD
CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!
Glenn Beck – The History of ACORN & AmeriCorps
Glenn Beck, Cloward-Piven Strategy, New Republic Series #1
The Obama Youth Corps Wave p1
The Obama Youth Corps Wave p2
No One Took Barack Obama At His Word
“The progressives who today masquerade as liberals may rant against fascism; yet it is their policy that paves the way for Hitlerism.”
~Ludwig von Mises, Interventionism, page 88
“Socialism is simply a re-assertion of that tribal ethics whose gradual weakening had made an approach to the Great Society possible.”
~Friedrich A. Hayek, The Mirage of Social Justice, pages 133-4
Background Articles and Videos
Obama’s Civilian National Security Force
By Lee Cary
“…Senator Obama was nearly 17 minutes into his July 2 speech (yet another one where naming Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was required) in Colorado Springs, Colorado when he deviated from his pre-released script and performed without the teleprompter net saying,
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” (emphasis added)
The immediate context for that amazing statement was a preview of parts of his plan to vastly expand community service opportunities for Americans of nearly all ages. He said,
“People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve.”
The range of his community service initiatives was outlined in an earlier American Thinker article. In his campaign document entitled “The Blueprint for Change: Barack Obama’s Plan For America,” Obama’s “Service” section runs a close second to “Education” in complexity. But, with his Colorado Springs’ statement, it grabbed first place in its projected costs to taxpayers. Obama did the cost projection himself.
He plans to double the Peace Corps’ budget by 2011, and expand AmeriCorps, USA Freedom Corps, VISTA, YouthBuild Program, and the Senior Corps. Plus, he proposes to form a Classroom Corps, Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, Veterans Corps, Homeland Security Corps, Global Energy Corps, and a Green Jobs Corps. Here a corps – there a corps – everywhere a corps corps.
So it made sense in Colorado Springs when he said his call to community service “will be a central cause of my presidency.” He couldn’t be clearer in signaling his intentions, including a Social Investment Fund Network to link local non-profits with the federal government. …”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obamas_civilian_national_secur.html
Barack Obama: The Community Organizer in Chief
By Lee Cary
“…Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS)
This refers to a large entrée section, historically known by some of its most favorite dishes like AmeriCorps, VISTA and the Senior Corps. Since 1994, total budget appropriations (in 2007 dollars) add up to $12.6 billion, averaging $900 million per year. The CNCS annual budget has been declining since 2004. But Obama plans to triple the scope of the CNCS’s most popular dish — AmeriCorps – from 75,000 “slots” (participants involved) to 250,000. Factor in a proportionate increase ($750 million) added to AmeriCorps funding allocated within the CNCS 2008 budget of $856 million, and the new CNCS budget in an Obama administration could double to about $1.6 billion. But wait, there’s more to add to that budget.
There are five new entrées planned for the CNCS: Classroom Corps where people can volunteer to help in “high-need and underserved schools;” Health Corps, where volunteers are “trained to assist health professionals;” Clean Energy Corps, where volunteers can “promote energy independence through efforts like weatherization, renewable energy projects and educational outreach;” Veterans Corps, where veterans are recruited to serve veterans in VA facilities, nursing homes, and homeless shelters; and the Homeland Security Corps “to help communities plan, prepare for and respond to emergencies.” How much do they cost? …”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/barack_obama_the_community_org.html
ServiceNation Summit – Interview with Barack Obama (part 1)
ServiceNation Summit – Interview with Barack Obama (part 2)
ServiceNation Summit – Interview with Barack Obama (part 2)
Obama’s “Civilian National Security force” part 1 “The Creation”
Barack Obama’s “Civilian National Security Force part 2: “The Mandatory Service”
Obama Will Ban Firearms, Ammo, Gun Shows, Gun Stores, Concealed Carry, shooting, 4×4s, etc.
Related Posts On Pronk Palisades
Obama Youth–Civilian National Security Force–National Socialism–Hitler Youth–Brownshirts– Redux?–Collectivism!
The American People Confront Obama’s Red Shirts (ACORN) and Purple Shirts (SEIU)–Bullhorns and Beatings Over Obama Care!
Obama’s Marching Orders For His Red Shirts (ACORN), Purple Shirts (SEIU) and Black Shirts (New Panther Party)–Progressive Radical Socialists
Discover The Left’s Organized Crime Network–Crime Pays–Organized Crimes Pays More–Apply for Census Taker Jobs!
ACORN Or Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now–Good Intentioned People Lead By Criminal Organizers–Demand A Special Prosecutor To Investigate!–Videos
ACORN–Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now–Obama’s Red Shirts
Obama–ACORN–CRA–Congress–Democratic Party–Fannie Mae–Barrack Obama’s Kansas Values–Killing Babies in Cold Blood?
Voters Beware: The Radical Rules of Saul Alinsky and Leftist Democrats
Mark Lloyd, FCC Diversity Czar, and Cass Sustein, Regulatory Czar: Progressive Radical Socialist Silencing of Free Speech On Internet Blogs and Talk Radio
Censorship Commissar for AM and Internet Talk Radio–Henry Waxman–The Face of Progressive Liberal Fascism!
The Talk Radio Audiences Revolt Against Fairness Doctrine
Obama’s Hidden Agenda and Covert Cadre of Marxists, Communists, Progressives, Radicals, Socialists–Far Left Democrats Destroying Capitalism and The American Republic
Apollo Alliance and Obama’s Green Czar Van Jones: Greens on The Outside–Reds On The Inside–Big Greens, Big Unions, Big Foundations, Big Business, Big Bucks, Big Taxes–Videos
Barack Obama’s Socialist Green Commissar Carol Browner
Crazy Corrupt Climate Cult Czarina Carol’s Crystal Clear Criminal Communication–Coverup!
Cloward Piven Strategy–The Crisis Strategy Of Barack Obama
Outting Obama: Radical Racist Rabble Rouser Reader
Rush Right–Obama Destroying the Economy on Purpose–Limbaugh Lambastes Leftists!
Rush Limbaugh: Obama is Destroying the Economy!–Videos
Yuri Bezmenov On KGB Soviet Propaganda and Subversion–Videos
George Soros: Government Interventionist and Global Socialist–Obama’s Puppeter Master–Videos
Soros Funded and Obama’s Manufactured Hate Generator–The Southern Poverty Law Center–Disinformation Propaganda Campaign
George Soros: Barack Obama’s Money Man and Agenda Puppeter
Obama–Ayers–Chicago Annenberg Challenge–ACORN–Radical Socialists–Terrorist Bombers–Videos
Eugenics–Rockefeller–United Nations–Population Control–Holdren–Abortions/Sterilization–Browner–Cap and Trade–Obama–Compulsory Socialized Medicine–Euthanasia–Transhuman–Brave New World!–Videos
GE–General Electric Plugged Puppet President Pinocchio–P3–Time To Unplug Jeff Immelt and GE!
General Electric’s Jeff Immelt Either Unplugs Maddow & Olbermann on MSNBC or Gets Unplugged For Supporting Serial Baby Mass Murderer!
Public Option = Government Option = Pathway to Single Payer = Single Payer = Socialized Medicine = Blue Pill = Poison Pill
Liberal Fascism–Jonah Goldberg–Videos
Fact 1. Federal Government Health Insurance Is Compulsory–Kill The Bill–H.R. 3200
Patient Empowerment: Health Savings Accounts–High Deductible Catastrophic Health Insurance–Affordable, Portable, Fair, Individual Health Care Plan–Consumer Driven Health Care Reform!
The Dangers Of A Single Payer Health Care System: Ronald Reagan On Socialized Medicine and Friedrich A. Hayek On State Monopoly
The American People Believe The Government Public Option Plan Is The Path To The Single Payer Government Plan–Socialized Medicine–Obama Caught Lying To The American People!
The American People Confront Obama’s Red Shirts (ACORN) and Purple Shirts (SEIU)–Bullhorns and Beatings Over Obama Care!
The Obama Depression Has Arrived: 15,000,000 to 25,000,000 Unemployed Americans–Stimulus Package and Bailouts A Failure–400,000 Leave Labor Force In July!
Obama’s Marching Orders For His Red Shirts (ACORN), Purple Shirts (SEIU) and Black Shirts (New Panther Party)–Progressive Radical Socialists
Health Care Resources
Republican Health Care Reform: The Patients’ Choice Act
Medical Doctor and Senator Tom Coburn On Health Care–Videos
The Senate Doctors Show–Videos
Obama’s Waterloo– Government Compulsory Single Payer Socialized Medicine!–Videos
President Obama’s Plan of Massive Deficit Spending Is Destroying The US Economy–The American People Say Stop Socialism BS Now!
The Bum’s Rush of The American People: The Totally Irresponsible Democratic Party Health Care Bill and Obama’s Big Lie Exposed
Chairman Obama’s Progressive Radical Socialist Health Care Bill Kills Individual Private Health Care Insurance–Join The Second American Revolution!
The Obama Big Lie and Inconvenient Truth About Health Care–The Public Option Trojan Horse–Leads To A Single Payor Goverment Monopoly of Health Care and The Bankruptcy of USA!
The Obama Public Option Poison Pill For A Government Health Care Monopoly–Single Payer System–Betting Your Life and Paying Though The Nose
Government Bureaucracy: Organizational Chart of The House Democrats’ Health Plan
Dr. Robert W. Christensen–Videos
John Stossel–Sick In America–Videos
Peter Singer–Videos
The Economic Consequences of Barack Obama’s Radical Socialist Agenda–Videos
Personally, I’d not have come in via the Trafford route: too many water obstacles, and stuff like that, and you’d have had to take Liverpool first although they’d probably just let you in and the minidressed scousettes would just ride along on your tanks.
If Manchester was what you needed, then much better to seize the heights south and southeast round Stockport and Hazelgrove, possibly using airborne assault with portable artillery and mortars, plus the ring of hills from Bolton, Bury and Rochdale. To do both, too, you could just drive up the M6.
Then you have the entire city at your mercy from bombardment. Forget the “urban guerrillas” – too busy watching the telly. And from there you could just starve the place out.
heres an awesome video of a true patriot at a town hall meeting.
The Town Hall Meeting was with U.S. Congressman Brian Baird.
Folks we, just like this fine patriot must keep pushing back to stop this viral spread of socialism. We all need to take a deep breath, read what is actually in the constitution and push right back at the oncoming socialist statist establishment.
We also have to remember that the government thinks that this will all die down after the recess. Remember to vote the bastards out in 2010. Vote them all out!
wytcld writes “When Verizon spun off its Northern New England lines to FairPoint, FairPoint leased Verizon’s computer network to manage them. This was costly, so FairPoint readied its own network. To prove its own network was ready for the switchover a demonstration was prepared for an outside auditor, Liberty. Now a whistleblower claims: ‘…when Liberty was watching what they thought was “flow thru” within a system and from one system to another, they were really only seeing a small program that was created to assimilate what they wanted the systems to do. They were not actually in the systems at the time nor were they in the test systems. They were in a newly created small program that used screen shots from the real system to deceive the audience into believing that they were watching a real demonstration.’ How easy is it to find auditors who can be fooled by such a simple trick? Whether or not the test was faked, the network has proved so unready that FairPoint is close to bankruptcy, and may have its licenses to operate revoked in Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont.”Read more of this story at Slashdot.
“KTNW reporter Mac Fukudoma here, reporting at today’s raucous local Town hall event. Quite a sight, I must say, all the different citizens and protesters here at the King City Eagles’ Lodge, making their opinions known. Let me see if I can grab someone here and get an interview. You, sir, you–can you take a moment to talk to us? Thanks. Mac Fukudoma, KTNW–what’s your name, and why did you come here today?”
“My name’s Bob, and I came here to protest the government trying to turn my country socialist.”
“I noticed you have a holstered pistol on your belt–that’s a bit of a surprise. Why did you bring it to this crowded event?”
“I felt it was a statement I wanted to make about freedom. I refuse to live any other way, except the free way.”
“Freedom, yes. But I was wondering…”
“Me, I’m only gonna live free.”
“…I…see. And I also see you’re not the only one who’s armed–YOU sir. Yes, you–could you take a minute to talk to me? Yes–thanks. You can face the camera, right there. I see that you’re carrying a large rifle over your shoulder. Just what is that, an AK-47?”
“Okay–why did you come to representative Mitchell’s Town Hall on healthcare with an assault rifle?”
“…the only right I have left. I wanted to exercise the one freedom this fascist government hasn’t taken away.”
“You’ve noticed all the people avoiding you? Even our police don’t walk around with assault rifles…”
“Once they take your guns, you can’t live, buddy. Your guns’re gone, you’re dead. That’s what this protest is about, the government trying to tear our guns away…”
“…er, I don’t think–OH NO! THERE’S A MAN HOLDING A HOSTAGE HERE–”
“…hullo!”
“…AND–wha?!”
“Hey there.”
“WHE–lady, there’s a man holding a revolver to your head…“
“…my boyfriend, Steve-O.”
“Steve-O?!”
“Afternoon, sir.”
“Good LORD, Steve-O–what the hell are you doing?!”
“My rights–I’m not going to give ‘em up.”
“Tell ‘em, honey!”
“Please, Steve, take your finger off the trigger…”
“America was a free country, but not any more. This is all I’ve got left, and damned if I’m gonna let the government take it away!”
So many ways I have seen you,
So many ways I have hoped to understand you,
So many ways I have longed to end your worries.
You’re holding on to many things…
So much pain, So much hurt, so little joy.
‘ your bleeding heart can mend’
But you have to let go of all that weighs you down
and be lifted up.
Being fragile in a world of no real love pre-empts decisions
That gives rise to mistakes.
So let it go and be lifted up!